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well, with 25 days to go until the year-end fiscal cliff deadline, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next
well, with 25 days to go until the year-end fiscal cliff deadline, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the...
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, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen this? >> yeah. >> the republican party has a branding problem. these are researchers that say -- we asked 22, 23 different topics, whether americans related more to the democratic party or the republican party. 22 of the 23, they appeal more to democrats. >> yeah. >> it is a generalized, massive branding problem over what's happened nationally over the past year. >> except in the south. >> the piece, in part, points out that unlike people who sit around here, most people, normal people out there in america react emotionally to politics when they hear phrases, they react emot
, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen...
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for them, $500 million. >>> let's get to the fiscal cliff. politico has an exclusive report that president obama and house speaker boehner had a television conversation. politico characterizes it as, quote, kurt. he wants the white house to move his position on tax rates, but the president won't budge. the president responded to the house speaker according to politico telling him, if he has an alternative plan he ought to put that forward rather than focusing on entitlements. meanwhile the white house will send tim geithner to the white house for meetings with republican and democratic conditioningal leaders. yesterday the president met with big ceo's from goldman sachs, at&t, cater pillar, many who said after the meeting they've merged hoping a deal could be struck to avoid the fiscal cliff. in another meeting president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> i'll go anywhere and i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for u
for them, $500 million. >>> let's get to the fiscal cliff. politico has an exclusive report that president obama and house speaker boehner had a television conversation. politico characterizes it as, quote, kurt. he wants the white house to move his position on tax rates, but the president won't budge. the president responded to the house speaker according to politico telling him, if he has an alternative plan he ought to put that forward rather than focusing on entitlements. meanwhile...
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tea party 2 is going to dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically, jon, what grover norquist is saying there to members of the tea party set who have been elected, who were elected, is, you know, we're going to take everybody who is against us into a primary on your right. >> right. >> on the republican side. >> right. >> so the threat has been issued already, even before we begin negotiating what the package will be. >> oh, yeah. >> this is like political terrorism. >> well, it's certainly a clear bargaining position. i remember three years ago talking to a longtime member of the house who was running for the senate. and we were talking about something else. and at the end of the conversation, i said, is it really as bad as everybody says? is it worse than when you came in? which was in the late '80s. and he said the central difference is in the caucus, the republican caucus, the fear is not a democratic challenge, it's a primary challenge. and it's the first time i had ever heard the term "to be primaried." he said, "you don't want to be primaried." you can
tea party 2 is going to dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically, jon, what grover norquist is saying there to members of the tea party set who have been elected, who were elected, is, you know, we're going to take everybody who is against us into a primary on your right. >> right. >> on the republican side. >> right. >> so the threat has been issued already, even before we begin negotiating what the package will be. >> oh, yeah....
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we're talking about when democrats jumped off a cliff and voted for barack obama they were voting for a community organizer who was a glorified statesmen. guys, you talk i'll eat, go ahead. >> there are a thousand other guys more impressive on wall street. mitt romney you paint him like i've dealt with a lot of businessmen. he's a successful guy. 's avenue not our panacea. >> he's the only one running for president among your wall street friends running for republican and he has not yet defined himself i don't think for the country. >> because the more he defines himself the more he is unelectable. >> he's been doing this for quite some time so it feels a little forced. >> and i don't want to invite him into my home every night. all the body language went like this. he doesn't have that appeal. he just doesn't have it. it's not just there. >> so let's look at the latest "usa today" gallup poll of 12 swing states showing romney trailing obama by 18 points by women voters. he was asked about that specific dynamic yesterday. >> i know our party faced a generation gap and the democratic p
we're talking about when democrats jumped off a cliff and voted for barack obama they were voting for a community organizer who was a glorified statesmen. guys, you talk i'll eat, go ahead. >> there are a thousand other guys more impressive on wall street. mitt romney you paint him like i've dealt with a lot of businessmen. he's a successful guy. 's avenue not our panacea. >> he's the only one running for president among your wall street friends running for republican and he has not...
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we were headed toward a fiscal cliff long before barack obama took the wheel. let's get that straight. we didn't govern well as republicans when we controlled both chambers in the white house. the difficulty we had as republicans was to convince people we'll be better than they are and that we'll be better than we were. >> can you argue it might be difficult to do that with mitt romney? >> no, no, like i said. look at massachusetts, look at what he did there. balance budgets and everything else. and you see a conservative governance there. and compare that to the president and the president who has said, you know, within -- after the next four years we will have the deficit -- look at it now, we're projecting $1.3 trillion again. >> for the fourth year in a row. richard haass came on earlier and said something you would usually expect from a fiery republican stump speech. and he said the united states next year is going to be in the position that greece is in this year. >> that's right. >> is that your concern? >> yes, it is. and just this week they're trying t
we were headed toward a fiscal cliff long before barack obama took the wheel. let's get that straight. we didn't govern well as republicans when we controlled both chambers in the white house. the difficulty we had as republicans was to convince people we'll be better than they are and that we'll be better than we were. >> can you argue it might be difficult to do that with mitt romney? >> no, no, like i said. look at massachusetts, look at what he did there. balance budgets and...
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today president obama returns to campaign mode, taking his fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house. their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. neither side revealed anything about the meeting that was part of the agreement. only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking committee, said his party should consider the president's position on raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate's in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%, and all of a sudden the shift
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cliff, this benefits him. the public will blame the republicans. okay. i suppose it's entirely possible. in fact, it's probable of that category. but does obama really want to start the second term going into recession again? the interesting thing, with this offer on the table, sequestration and the expiration of bush tax cuts for everyone is the best option for republicans right now. but as least under that, you can dispel this notion -- the biggest obstacle is this attitude of the public that we can solve the problem of the debt, we can solve the problem of entitlements just by raising taxes on the rich a little bit. it's fundamentally not true. but my attitude to say all right, fine, let's go with that. let's even go with tax increases for everybody. even that bottom bracket going up from 10% to 15%. let the bush tax cuts -- if they must expire, let them expire for everybody. and then we'll see how far tax increases can take us in dealing with these problems. and the answer is not that far at all. >> not th
cliff, this benefits him. the public will blame the republicans. okay. i suppose it's entirely possible. in fact, it's probable of that category. but does obama really want to start the second term going into recession again? the interesting thing, with this offer on the table, sequestration and the expiration of bush tax cuts for everyone is the best option for republicans right now. but as least under that, you can dispel this notion -- the biggest obstacle is this attitude of the public that...
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fiscal cliff standoff. take a listen. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> how accountable are you for the fact that washington can't get anything done and that we are at this deadline again? >> i have to tell you, david, if you look at my track record over the last two years, i cut spending by over $1 trillion in 2011. i negotiated with speaker boehner in good faith and moved more than halfway in order to achieve a grand bargain. i offered over $1 trillion in additional spending cuts. at a certain point if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people. >> michael steele, some republicans were quick to criticize the president's tone. speaker boehner res
fiscal cliff standoff. take a listen. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done, not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate, but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> how accountable are you for the fact that washington can't get anything done and that we are at...
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. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. tomorrow president obama will sit down with congressional leaders, as we've been talking about, to kick off negotiations on how to try to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday's news conference set the tone for these meetings. the president, as we witnessed, was confident. he was reminding house republicans that he earned political capital on election day to push his plan for tax hikes on the wealthy. take a listen. >> if there's one thing that everybody understood was a big difference between myself and mr. romney, it was when it comes to how we reduce our deficit, i argued for a balanced, responsible approach, and part of that included making sure that the wealthiest americans pay a little bit more. i think every voter out there understood that that was an important debate. and the majority of voters agreed with me. by the way, more voters agreed with me on this issue than voted for me. so we've got a clear majority of the american people who recognize if we're going to be ser
. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. tomorrow president obama will sit down with congressional leaders, as we've been talking about, to kick off negotiations on how to try to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. yesterday's news conference set the tone for these meetings. the president, as we witnessed, was confident. he was reminding house republicans that he earned political capital on election day to push his plan for tax hikes on the wealthy. take a listen. >> if there's one...
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. >>> let's go fiscal cliff now. president obama and speaker boehner met face to face for about an hour last night at the white house in what both sides would only describe as a frank conversation over the fiscal cliff. it came after boehner earlier in the day accused obama of dragging the negotiations out. >> i've been pushing all year for us to address this problem. but here we are at the 11th hour. and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here. it's this issue. spending. >> if we go over the cliff, will you permit a vote to decouple that and then fight again on the debt limit? >> ifs, ands and buts are like candy and nuts. if that were the case, every day would be christmas. listen, my goal is to get to -- i know, it's going to be here real soon. my goal is to get to an agreement with the president of the united states that addresses this problem. >> house minority leader -- >> hold on a second. >> i really want to see this. >> i've just got to say this. i've got to say this. i hav
. >>> let's go fiscal cliff now. president obama and speaker boehner met face to face for about an hour last night at the white house in what both sides would only describe as a frank conversation over the fiscal cliff. it came after boehner earlier in the day accused obama of dragging the negotiations out. >> i've been pushing all year for us to address this problem. but here we are at the 11th hour. and the president still isn't serious about dealing with this issue right here....
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it's a huge challenge, the fiscal cliff, for president obama but also a huge opportunity. if you think about we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost, in a very practical way, if he had lost the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare, his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble. >> but john meacham, the republicans regained the whatter jo i the, th jority. they regained the mar jority running against the bailout, running against tax increases, running against all the things that the president ran for. this should not enrage anybody. this is divided government. >> yeah. >> this is a genius of james madison. this is the genius of our constitution. this is the genius of our founding fathers. it frustrates republicans when democrats do it and it frustrates democrats when republicans do it. we're going to have to figure out how to work to the. and i do believe the president and john boehner will more likely to do that in the second term than the first. >> yes. and in a divided government you are real
it's a huge challenge, the fiscal cliff, for president obama but also a huge opportunity. if you think about we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost, in a very practical way, if he had lost the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare, his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble. >> but john meacham, the republicans regained the whatter jo i the, th jority. they regained the mar jority running against the...
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now it's a more conciliatory tone with this fiscal cliff. and the grover pledge republicans say privately gets in the way of that. now a majority of the congress has not signed the pledge because of republican losses as well as we talk to some incoming republicans in the house and they haven't signed it. they don't want to be tied down. and these aren't centrists, incoming members, these are conservatives. grover says eventually some of these guys will sign it after they've served in congress, but it's part of the republican party kind of reassessing things. >> i'll ask you to overgeneralize, we had speaker gingrich who says things aren't so bad, we just need to recalibrate a little bit. as you talk to republicans, capitol hill, strategists and big thinkers, are there more people saying we need some tweaks or more people saying we need to rebuild from the ground up? >> i think it's more of a significant revamp. especially when you're talking about immigration reform. i mean, you talk about the dream act, scale back bill that was voted on in
now it's a more conciliatory tone with this fiscal cliff. and the grover pledge republicans say privately gets in the way of that. now a majority of the congress has not signed the pledge because of republican losses as well as we talk to some incoming republicans in the house and they haven't signed it. they don't want to be tied down. and these aren't centrists, incoming members, these are conservatives. grover says eventually some of these guys will sign it after they've served in congress,...
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president obama will stress the looming fiscal cliff for the first time when it calls for a one-year extension with people earning less than $250,000 a year. all the tax cuts are set to expire. the president will make the announcement surrounded by workers and families. they would benefit if the rates were
president obama will stress the looming fiscal cliff for the first time when it calls for a one-year extension with people earning less than $250,000 a year. all the tax cuts are set to expire. the president will make the announcement surrounded by workers and families. they would benefit if the rates were
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if obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff, and then let the new house, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the george w. bush tax cuts. >> so i don't think that's inconsistent with anything that i just said. i agree with him 100%. what have i been saying for a week? do not cave. compromise. do not cave. if the president doesn't want to meet us halfway on massive entitlement cuts, on reforming those systems to save medicare and medicaid, social security, cutting defense, reforming the taxes, then do not meet -- if he doesn't want to meet halfway, but i've got to tell you, i am heartened with what i saw in the president's tone yesterday. i loved hearing him tell a group of americans yesterday, hey, we're going to get this thing done. i feel good about it. i love that he agreed to sit down with john boehner one on one. richard, you've done negotiations on all levels. i really liked the tone the president was sending. and by the way, i felt like charles krauthammer did a couple
if obama remains intransigent, let him be the one to take us over the cliff, and then let the new house, which is sworn in weeks before the president, immediately introduce and pass a full across-the-board restoration of the george w. bush tax cuts. >> so i don't think that's inconsistent with anything that i just said. i agree with him 100%. what have i been saying for a week? do not cave. compromise. do not cave. if the president doesn't want to meet us halfway on massive entitlement...
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especially on the bush/obama tax cuts? >> i think the deal will be struck for a little while. >> happy news. margaret, are we going to plummet? >> well, you have the drivers. let's just go over and you have the kickers of the can down the road. i kind of agree with ezra, there is still this -- oh, we have to do it. we want to do it. we want to burst the boil. let's go on. early yerp in the program we said how obama had no agenda because it was a negative campaign and he didn't have a positive program. the agenda is set for him. as ezra said, we move forward on these issues that remain and the house republicans are going to push, push, push, and i think in january -- some of it will be kicked down the road. >> and, by the way, since it's existing law, the president is in such a powerful position when it comes to the tax cuts for instance. the tax increases, for instance. >> if the president sits back and plays golf, the taxes are increased. >> i think the public also wants a concerted effort, less rhetoric and they want to
especially on the bush/obama tax cuts? >> i think the deal will be struck for a little while. >> happy news. margaret, are we going to plummet? >> well, you have the drivers. let's just go over and you have the kickers of the can down the road. i kind of agree with ezra, there is still this -- oh, we have to do it. we want to do it. we want to burst the boil. let's go on. early yerp in the program we said how obama had no agenda because it was a negative campaign and he didn't...
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>> obama wins and the fiscal cliff is solved in november and december. that's what schumer said. >> that's good. what golden nugget will you take with you throughout the day? >> i learned that liz grod watching morns joe and she's a beautiful bride. married saturday. couldn't possibly look more beautiful. >> do you flow why she's smiling? >> she's smiling because she didn't work the overnights for about a week. >> she's in the trenches for us every day, does a great job. she had great day. she reports on saturday. now off on her honeymoon and she'll be back in a week or so. >> i'm so proud of you, liz. >> congratulations. what did you learn? >> that we need to talk about it every day and i think the headlines today drive that point home. >> our men and women in uniform that have been serving there now since the fall of 2001 have given their all, they've done a fantastic job. i'm so proud
>> obama wins and the fiscal cliff is solved in november and december. that's what schumer said. >> that's good. what golden nugget will you take with you throughout the day? >> i learned that liz grod watching morns joe and she's a beautiful bride. married saturday. couldn't possibly look more beautiful. >> do you flow why she's smiling? >> she's smiling because she didn't work the overnights for about a week. >> she's in the trenches for us every day, does...
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if we get that in place we are removing actually half of the fiscal cliff. >> that was president obama outlining his tax plans for small businesses across the nation. here with us now administrator of the small business administration karen mills. great to see you and have you on the show. >> when the president says 97% of small businesses won't see their taxes go up, is he talking about businesses that file as small businesses? individuals that own small businesses, obviously, will see their taxes go up, right? >> no. he's talking about businesses that file as individual pass throughs. 97% of them will not see their taxes go up if we are able to, right now, get together and do what small businesses really want, which is make a deal. they want certainty. i've heard you say this actually, joe, be often, you know in the last year, small businesses want to know they can move ahead with get more sales and actually that's what i'm going to talk about today, which is, we have small business saturday. >> how do we define a small business? first of all, official small business designation. >>
if we get that in place we are removing actually half of the fiscal cliff. >> that was president obama outlining his tax plans for small businesses across the nation. here with us now administrator of the small business administration karen mills. great to see you and have you on the show. >> when the president says 97% of small businesses won't see their taxes go up, is he talking about businesses that file as small businesses? individuals that own small businesses, obviously, will...
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, which is no deal without some increase in rates, or we go over the cliff. >> let me just add one thing. when obama made that initial offer, we talked a little bit about how, you know, it was a wish list. it was ideological, whatever you want to say. i think it actually helped boehner in some respects because it gave him three or four things that he could then go back to his caucus and say, look, i moved obama off of this, this and this. and when boehner put his offer out there, you started to see what could potentially be a chip-trading process going on here, whereby you have some give on, you know, cpi, the inflation index for social security, and in exchange boehner would agree to some marginal rate in the tax rates. now the people need to start figuring out what they want to give and take. >> the only difference i would say, steve, between what the president wants and john boehner is it's not what john boehner wants. it's what john boehner can deliver. >> yeah. >> and this is a simple vote-counting measure. in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his de
, which is no deal without some increase in rates, or we go over the cliff. >> let me just add one thing. when obama made that initial offer, we talked a little bit about how, you know, it was a wish list. it was ideological, whatever you want to say. i think it actually helped boehner in some respects because it gave him three or four things that he could then go back to his caucus and say, look, i moved obama off of this, this and this. and when boehner put his offer out there, you...
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. >> 8, fiscal cliff, 7, u.s. economy. 6, penn state. 5, libya. 4 obama care. why did obama care rise again? >> you know, it seemed people felt that story was never going to go away. it actually started last year, went through this year and is still an unending story. we don't know. people felt it affected their readers, their constituents. >> obviously the supreme court story was huge. but also the election was huge as well where you had a lot of republicans say okay. we'll basically -- it's been, you know, verified by the american people. >> this was the first year i went back, since 1996, that a presidential election did not make the number one spot. it is pretty unusual. it's because of newtown. >> number 3, superstorm. obviously a huge storm, had a devastating impact on the tri-state area. >> in a normal year that would have been the number one story. it was a very complicated news year and it got knocked down to 3. >> you're right the u.s. election would have been the top story of the year. quite an election. >> almost any time. this is a fascinating elec
. >> 8, fiscal cliff, 7, u.s. economy. 6, penn state. 5, libya. 4 obama care. why did obama care rise again? >> you know, it seemed people felt that story was never going to go away. it actually started last year, went through this year and is still an unending story. we don't know. people felt it affected their readers, their constituents. >> obviously the supreme court story was huge. but also the election was huge as well where you had a lot of republicans say okay. we'll...
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of the cliff. >> right. >> started at 63% and now it's in the 30s. it just continues to fall. i don't feel that -- they don't feel, any way, that he is representing their interests. >> and if governor romney is watching the program on the treadmill, what would you do? >> i think i would make social security more of an issue and i think there are larger issues in the country that affect young people dramatically. for instance, health care. that is a youth issue in many ways. he has to sort of make up his mind on that. you know, what else? i think -- obviously if the republican party is going to run against contraception -- >> right. >> -- there's not going to be anyone young. if they run on these very traditional social -- you know, homophobic policies and so on, that just does not jive at all with the values of the younger generation. >> that's the problem. >> and here's some charts and graphs. >> stop it, joe. >> this is a big improvement. >> can i just say there are some things in here that aren't accurate? >> stop it. this is not allowed. no, you
of the cliff. >> right. >> started at 63% and now it's in the 30s. it just continues to fall. i don't feel that -- they don't feel, any way, that he is representing their interests. >> and if governor romney is watching the program on the treadmill, what would you do? >> i think i would make social security more of an issue and i think there are larger issues in the country that affect young people dramatically. for instance, health care. that is a youth issue in many...
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if anyone had a mandate, it was president obama. the economy fell off the cliff. did the two sides work together? not a bit of it. not from the start. why would it be different this time? >> well, because it has to be. well, what are we going to do, go off the fiscal cliff? >> they'll come up with some -- they'll patch and fix in the lame-duck session, and that's it. >> forced. >> you were showing me a map, mark halperin, a couple blocks back where mitt romney could lose nevada, ohio, iowa, pennsylvania, michigan, a lot of states and still win. which one -- what's that map look like? >> well, this is not a prediction by any means. it's something ari fleischer, former bush press secretary, floated last night on the twitters. and again, i think the trick is, it's the assumption the president's got a commanding position in the electoral college. this is a way he found to get governor romney to 270 without winning ohio, pennsylvania, minnesota or iowa. so he wins all the mccain states, nevada, all the mccain states plus new hampshire, colorado, wisconsin and the south
if anyone had a mandate, it was president obama. the economy fell off the cliff. did the two sides work together? not a bit of it. not from the start. why would it be different this time? >> well, because it has to be. well, what are we going to do, go off the fiscal cliff? >> they'll come up with some -- they'll patch and fix in the lame-duck session, and that's it. >> forced. >> you were showing me a map, mark halperin, a couple blocks back where mitt romney could lose...
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so why would we expect that there would be a different attitude toward the fiscal cliff or fixing these problems? will there be? i don't know. >> how about the republicans on the hill? >> i think there is an air coming out of this. though the things people complain about mitt romney we've known all along. he is not a warm and friendly guy. why people expected he would become -- i mean that in a public not a personal sense. he is not the kind of pactism le politician people have come to expect. we knew that all along. i think there is real frustration that the times, from the republicans' point of view, have not generated a bigger bump for him. >> sam, obviously you've been in ohio on the ground campaigning and you've seen the same thing there among republicans on the ground, right? >> yeah. i mean, they're trying to generate the type of enthusiasm they need to counteract what obama has been doing for five years. keep in mind obama has been in the state for five years more or less. romney was only there from may on. obama has about a hundred offices in ohio. romney has about 40. they got
so why would we expect that there would be a different attitude toward the fiscal cliff or fixing these problems? will there be? i don't know. >> how about the republicans on the hill? >> i think there is an air coming out of this. though the things people complain about mitt romney we've known all along. he is not a warm and friendly guy. why people expected he would become -- i mean that in a public not a personal sense. he is not the kind of pactism le politician people have come...
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session. >> expect republicans to be talking about barack obama costing another 123,000 jobs. et cetera. you can finish the sentence, finish the press conference. coming up next -- >> thank you. >> the -- thanks a lot, mike. >> coming up next, hated to see it happen but maybe it was time. right? the red sox trade away one of the last remaining members of the fabled 2004 world series championship team of idiots. self-described idiots. and yes, they acted like idiots. but we got the ring. will it be good for the team? who it is in sports, straight ahead. also -- the morning papers from today. mika and i will be back with "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark
session. >> expect republicans to be talking about barack obama costing another 123,000 jobs. et cetera. you can finish the sentence, finish the press conference. coming up next -- >> thank you. >> the -- thanks a lot, mike. >> coming up next, hated to see it happen but maybe it was time. right? the red sox trade away one of the last remaining members of the fabled 2004 world series championship team of idiots. self-described idiots. and yes, they acted like idiots. but...
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head for the cliff, says bill keller. president obama should declare now that unless congressional leaders come up with a serious bargain on fiscal reform something very much like simpson-bowles, he will allow all of the bush tax breaks to lapse and all of the draconian cuts to take effect. assuming no deal is consummated in the poisonous preelection climate, he should insist on a lame-duck session after election day. he should invite congressional leaders to camp david, put simpson-bowles on the table, and negotiate, not a lot, since the plan already includes considerable compromise, but enough to show goodwill. if no deal emerges all the democrats have to do is take a page from the republican playbook, dig in their heels and do nothing. he goes on to write this -- republicans will howl this is blackmail. a priceless complaint from the party that periodically threatens to let america default on its debt. but does obama have it in him? this is the kind of tactic lyndon johnson would have employed with relish. you can imag
head for the cliff, says bill keller. president obama should declare now that unless congressional leaders come up with a serious bargain on fiscal reform something very much like simpson-bowles, he will allow all of the bush tax breaks to lapse and all of the draconian cuts to take effect. assuming no deal is consummated in the poisonous preelection climate, he should insist on a lame-duck session after election day. he should invite congressional leaders to camp david, put simpson-bowles on...
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with obama we know. the big thing is the overhang of the fiscal cliff. it's going to dominate the news for the next six to eight months. >> it depends what industries we see growing. if you look at what is happening, one fascinating thing about unemployment numbers is they are so hyperregional. you look at north dakota. there is a sale boon. unemployment is 3%. it is 1% in certain places. >> wow. >> then you look at places like nevada and it is close to 12%. california is 10.8%. even within california, i was just in silicon valley last week. they cannot find -- the biggest problem is they cannot find engineers. that is the biggest problem. then you go to southern california and it's a different story. >> brian sullivan and lee you were pointing out the uncertainty that ceos feel yet there are companies that are doing well and there is consumer confidence. there is data on the table that shows upticks, that shows people are feeling confident. how is this not in sync then? i mean, i understand that the administration might have caused some uncertainty for
with obama we know. the big thing is the overhang of the fiscal cliff. it's going to dominate the news for the next six to eight months. >> it depends what industries we see growing. if you look at what is happening, one fascinating thing about unemployment numbers is they are so hyperregional. you look at north dakota. there is a sale boon. unemployment is 3%. it is 1% in certain places. >> wow. >> then you look at places like nevada and it is close to 12%. california is...
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to take the party off the cliff for the next four years. rather than you know what, let the 20% have it let them have the nomination then we can rid the party of that 20%. we'll see if they're right about that. >> mark halperin or chuck, you guys follow these events closely. is there something we're missing? is he being asked about these things? and put in bad position? or is he going ahead on these issues on his own? >> he says it often enough that the press stays on it and the press is obsessed by these things. it's more skillful candidate wouldn't say these things initially and if they occasionally did, they would fix it. george bush circa 1999, if he had the president's record to deal with and the conservative wing of his party to play off of, to look more centrist, this is a great situation for a strong candidate. >> it is unbelievable, you look, chuck todd, at what republicans have to work with i go back to what peggy noonan said six months ago, the president inherited a bad situation, he made things worse. if you believe like i belie
to take the party off the cliff for the next four years. rather than you know what, let the 20% have it let them have the nomination then we can rid the party of that 20%. we'll see if they're right about that. >> mark halperin or chuck, you guys follow these events closely. is there something we're missing? is he being asked about these things? and put in bad position? or is he going ahead on these issues on his own? >> he says it often enough that the press stays on it and the...
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you have the obama stimulus tax cuts expiring. you've got a collection of the spending increases that were agreed last year coming into force. and you've also got -- sorry, spending cuts coming into force. and you've also got the debt ceiling in the sense that congress is going to have to get permission to issue more bonds. and those three things coming together create a very nasty shock. and essentially if you do nothing, if you let the spending cuts happen, if you have the tax cuts roll off and you have essentially tax increases, you'll get a hit that's worth 3% to 4% worth of gross domestic production, and that will almost certainly push the economy back into recession. so there's an awful lot at stake right now. what paul ryan said is very interesting because we had an editorial on monday from glenn hubbard, mitt romney's economic adviser, essentially saying that yes, we recognize we need to talk about tax increases for the rich. i mean, he actually stressed that that should be the starting point of a discussion. he didn't say
you have the obama stimulus tax cuts expiring. you've got a collection of the spending increases that were agreed last year coming into force. and you've also got -- sorry, spending cuts coming into force. and you've also got the debt ceiling in the sense that congress is going to have to get permission to issue more bonds. and those three things coming together create a very nasty shock. and essentially if you do nothing, if you let the spending cuts happen, if you have the tax cuts roll off...
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the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can come to a compromise. but judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's still a long way to go. here's your day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff, we'll be left with a mess that could have been prevented with a single vote in a republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people, i don't think, understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here, and as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> it is somewhat like taking your child hostage and saying to somebody else, i'm going to shoot my child if you don't do what i want done. you don
the fiscal cliff. the hope is both sides can come to a compromise. but judging from the rhetoric on capitol hill, there's still a long way to go. here's your day on the hill. >> if we go over the cliff, we'll be left with a mess that could have been prevented with a single vote in a republican-controlled house of representatives. the american people, i don't think, understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a...
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what are the republicans trying to repeal obama care which is not going to happen. how do they get around looking like they want to say no to everything and get in the way of progress. >> they put in a number of votes between now and the august recess. they can call them political, about you they are real votes on real issues. >> like the disclosure act and the tax reform issues like repealing obama care. mitt romney said if he is elected president on day one he will do certain things like issuing an executive order like allowing states to get out of obama care like o peeling the keystone pipeline. he is talking about specific things he will do and president obama is against doing. the campaign has been interesting to watch. it has been a lot of character assassination and attacks on issues that seem to be distractions from the campaign. the reality is that president obama and governor romney have different views on very big issues. they are going to be debated and votes on these issues in congress asking members on both sides to stake out where they stand. >> why d
what are the republicans trying to repeal obama care which is not going to happen. how do they get around looking like they want to say no to everything and get in the way of progress. >> they put in a number of votes between now and the august recess. they can call them political, about you they are real votes on real issues. >> like the disclosure act and the tax reform issues like repealing obama care. mitt romney said if he is elected president on day one he will do certain...
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president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >> okay. >> all right? and now that we're down to the hard work of actually trimming some of the waste out of the federal government, nobody wants to do that. and so, we're in trouble because we have a set of elite career politicians that
president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to...
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we caned to the grand bargain between obama and boehner. we were there and then all of a sudden we weren't. >> we're going to find out this year whether this can happen because we have the fiscal cliff coming. we'll try to get sim some-bowles in place and i think it's going to be an ventful yearnd i think this will happen. >> joe, can you think how this will play out? >> i i can actually envision you us being responsible as it comes to the physical fiscal crisis, more so than the professor that everyone's talking about. unfortunately because it's much more complicated. i've got to see, you talked to some of the technical leaders out in sill i con valle-- silli valley. one of their greatest fractions is they don't have enough workers to take those high paying jobs. there's a political battle in washington, d.c. that doesn't allow us to keep the best and brightest in the world here in america. somebody asked me why we should allow graduate students to stay in america. and i said because i would rather that graduate student that is going to cr
we caned to the grand bargain between obama and boehner. we were there and then all of a sudden we weren't. >> we're going to find out this year whether this can happen because we have the fiscal cliff coming. we'll try to get sim some-bowles in place and i think it's going to be an ventful yearnd i think this will happen. >> joe, can you think how this will play out? >> i i can actually envision you us being responsible as it comes to the physical fiscal crisis, more so than...
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did barack obama make things worse or did he stop america from falling over a cliff? and how america answers that question on the first tuesday in november determines who's elected. >> but a what if scenario. do you think things would be radically different if mccain had won? >> i personally do. i personally do. i don't think -- i certainly don't think congress would have been distracted by the health care bill. i don't think they would have been distracted by cap and trade. i think there would have been more of a focus on jobs. and i think that the general tone is set for big and small business alike would have encouraged more investment in the economy. the $2 trillion on the sidelines would have been invested. there's been a fear of higher taxes. a fear of more regulation. there's been a fear that the president -- and the climate. you know. >> i think the climate point you make is probably where the big difference might have been, just the tone of the -- you know, as i look at the white house, i listen to axelrod yesterday, and i liked what he was saying. but i hope
did barack obama make things worse or did he stop america from falling over a cliff? and how america answers that question on the first tuesday in november determines who's elected. >> but a what if scenario. do you think things would be radically different if mccain had won? >> i personally do. i personally do. i don't think -- i certainly don't think congress would have been distracted by the health care bill. i don't think they would have been distracted by cap and trade. i think...
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with an obama victory it's much different because the path forward is a lot less clear but we're still going to get a deal by january or february. >> before we let you out of here, we managed to insult huge numbers of american children with your latest piece, how summer is making u.s. kids dumber and fatter. are kids getting dumber and fatter in summer? >> here is the problem, let's talk about the school achievement. kids on average go back t school a month behind where they left in the spring and it's very related to income and education. >> what grades are we talking about? >> k through six. you can explain the entire gap in student achievement between better educated families, higher income families, and less educated lower income families by sixth grade by each summer the lower income kids fall behind and that ratchets and by sixth grade it's a huge delta. >> why don't we extend the school year. >> i'm in favor of it. i think we should be extending the school day and extend the school year and that makes me really unpopular with school-aged children. >> why don't we spend some more
with an obama victory it's much different because the path forward is a lot less clear but we're still going to get a deal by january or february. >> before we let you out of here, we managed to insult huge numbers of american children with your latest piece, how summer is making u.s. kids dumber and fatter. are kids getting dumber and fatter in summer? >> here is the problem, let's talk about the school achievement. kids on average go back t school a month behind where they left in...
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not just in terms of the fiscal cliff, but in terms of a grand bargain. republicans say, you know, mitt romney actually given the failures of obama to get both sides to work together over the last four years, mitt romney's better positioned. talk about the different political dynamics that will play out in both cases. if obama wins and if romney wins. how do the tectonic plates shift to get us to a deal? >> here's what i believe. and this is -- the place where i agree with joe and we're on an unsustainable course. we're borrowing 40 cents of every dollar, that can't continue much longer. if obama wins, i believe there's a moment of opportunity in the lame duck session to have a plan laid out, and by the way, the good news is, there's a group of eight of us, that our colleagues have asked to put together a plan. so if colleagues are ready to act and hopefully they will be, that we have done the homework. and we are working very hard. we've got, i think, very close to an agreement on a framework that could be passed in a lame duck that would give the respon
not just in terms of the fiscal cliff, but in terms of a grand bargain. republicans say, you know, mitt romney actually given the failures of obama to get both sides to work together over the last four years, mitt romney's better positioned. talk about the different political dynamics that will play out in both cases. if obama wins and if romney wins. how do the tectonic plates shift to get us to a deal? >> here's what i believe. and this is -- the place where i agree with joe and we're...
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it does play into a set of policy issues and the obama campaign will continue to lift that up as well. >> mitt romney is a quantitative guy. those poll numbers, 54/37, ought to release the tax returns. he must think that the poll numbers are in the question, are you appalled by what's in mitt romney's taxes that those numbers be worse than 54/37 before he's going to release them. >> the past three or four weeks, people hammering him nonstop on this, bain, when he left bain, the cbs/"new york times" poll comes out and it's not having an impact. >> if he could put out the taxes and say nothing you know there's nothing there -- he would. therefore i would -- >> i just think there are years that this rich guy paid zero in taxes, and he did it legally, and everybody else that had his money would have done the same thing. warren buffett would have done the same thing. >> release them then. because a lot of other rich people have done what you've done, mitt romney, is what people will feel and be over with. >> but the thing is, it does though, it's okay to be rich, americans like rich people
it does play into a set of policy issues and the obama campaign will continue to lift that up as well. >> mitt romney is a quantitative guy. those poll numbers, 54/37, ought to release the tax returns. he must think that the poll numbers are in the question, are you appalled by what's in mitt romney's taxes that those numbers be worse than 54/37 before he's going to release them. >> the past three or four weeks, people hammering him nonstop on this, bain, when he left bain, the...
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barack obama could make a strong argument i saved the economy from going off the cliff. republicans make the argument we're in bad music. are you guys going to salsa dance. >> show me. i don't know how. show me. come on, gene. come on. i don't know how. okay. let me undo him. pretend you hear music. okay. you go back. >> i don't know how to dance. oh, my lord. i'm nervous. help me! help me! >> here we are. >> how cool am i? >> i don't know how to tell you this but you look like hell. dave barry is here. we found dave barry walking down the street here. as fate would have it he's wearing studio makeup. we'll put him on the show next. we'll be right back. the employee of the month is... spark card from capital one. spark cash gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. it's hard for my crew to keep up with 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. 2% cash back. that's setting the bar pretty high. thanks to spark, owning my own business has never been more rewarding. [ male announcer ] introducing spark the small business credit cards from capital one. get
barack obama could make a strong argument i saved the economy from going off the cliff. republicans make the argument we're in bad music. are you guys going to salsa dance. >> show me. i don't know how. show me. come on, gene. come on. i don't know how. okay. let me undo him. pretend you hear music. okay. you go back. >> i don't know how to dance. oh, my lord. i'm nervous. help me! help me! >> here we are. >> how cool am i? >> i don't know how to tell you this but...